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	<title>Comments on: Adrian Dater Blog Post Taken Down</title>
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		<title>By: hockeychic</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34400</link>
		<dc:creator>hockeychic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This saddens me.  Certainly if that is Dater&#039;s opinion, he is entitled to it.  I think something that a lot of men don&#039;t consider is what it is like to never be taken seriously as a female that is really into what is traditionally a male sport.  I grew up being told I should go play softball and not hard ball with the boys when I didn&#039;t want to play something I saw as watered down.  Still people use phrases like &quot;You skate/hit/throw like a girl.&quot; as putdowns during games.  

All my life I have to fight against the assumption that because I am female, I can&#039;t possible know anything about sports.  That attitude has lessened quite a bit but I can remember in college sitting down and catching a NFL game in the dorm lounge and asking who was playing.  The guy sitting there said, &quot;Well the Jets are the guys in the green and white uniforms,&quot;  and I cut him off and said, &quot;I know who the Jets are.&quot;  

I don&#039;t think this has anything to do with being P.C. or un-P.C.  It is chauvanism plain and simple and Dater even admits that.  It is just sad to see it from someone I consider a decent hockey writer.

Did Dater feel the same way when Cammi Granato was doing the color for the L.A. Kings (or maybe because that was radio it doesn&#039;t matter)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This saddens me.  Certainly if that is Dater&#8217;s opinion, he is entitled to it.  I think something that a lot of men don&#8217;t consider is what it is like to never be taken seriously as a female that is really into what is traditionally a male sport.  I grew up being told I should go play softball and not hard ball with the boys when I didn&#8217;t want to play something I saw as watered down.  Still people use phrases like &#8220;You skate/hit/throw like a girl.&#8221; as putdowns during games.  </p>
<p>All my life I have to fight against the assumption that because I am female, I can&#8217;t possible know anything about sports.  That attitude has lessened quite a bit but I can remember in college sitting down and catching a NFL game in the dorm lounge and asking who was playing.  The guy sitting there said, &#8220;Well the Jets are the guys in the green and white uniforms,&#8221;  and I cut him off and said, &#8220;I know who the Jets are.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this has anything to do with being P.C. or un-P.C.  It is chauvanism plain and simple and Dater even admits that.  It is just sad to see it from someone I consider a decent hockey writer.</p>
<p>Did Dater feel the same way when Cammi Granato was doing the color for the L.A. Kings (or maybe because that was radio it doesn&#8217;t matter)?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34384</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 19:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I agree that the NBA is awful.
Second I agree that the whole &quot;PC&quot; movement is asinine and disgusts me.  Call a spade a spade and get over it.  People are to quick to get their feelings hurt these days. Unfortunately though, if someone wanted to be &quot;offended&quot; be the AD post, the could sue the DP.  They have to watch their backs as well.

I do have to disagree with the idea that just because you haven&#039;t played a sport, or in a particular league, it means you can&#039;t be a commentator. As a sports fan I do hate it when they trod a woman out who is obviously there just as eye candy and adds nothing to the broadcast of the game. But the opposite is also true, I have no problem with a woman who knows her stuff and comments intelligently about the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I agree that the NBA is awful.<br />
Second I agree that the whole &#8220;PC&#8221; movement is asinine and disgusts me.  Call a spade a spade and get over it.  People are to quick to get their feelings hurt these days. Unfortunately though, if someone wanted to be &#8220;offended&#8221; be the AD post, the could sue the DP.  They have to watch their backs as well.</p>
<p>I do have to disagree with the idea that just because you haven&#8217;t played a sport, or in a particular league, it means you can&#8217;t be a commentator. As a sports fan I do hate it when they trod a woman out who is obviously there just as eye candy and adds nothing to the broadcast of the game. But the opposite is also true, I have no problem with a woman who knows her stuff and comments intelligently about the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Talon Lardner</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34383</link>
		<dc:creator>Talon Lardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On one hand, I don&#039;t agree with the guy at all. I don&#039;t care what gender an announcer is, as long as they are intelligent and can provide either solid play by play, informational, or color commentary. 

On the other hand, I&#039;m also all for publishing stuff like this. The only thing that will be hurt by publishing this sort of stuff is perhaps at most Dater&#039;s reputation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one hand, I don&#8217;t agree with the guy at all. I don&#8217;t care what gender an announcer is, as long as they are intelligent and can provide either solid play by play, informational, or color commentary. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m also all for publishing stuff like this. The only thing that will be hurt by publishing this sort of stuff is perhaps at most Dater&#8217;s reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34380</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for articulating my exact feelings Michael, it&#039;s nice to know there are intelligent people out there who don&#039;t just feign outrage at first sight of &quot;un-PC&quot; language. And I have to think that damn near every guy who has played competitive sports feels the same way when they are watching it on TV. (This isn&#039;t to say there aren&#039;t plenty of horrible male announcers, because there are)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for articulating my exact feelings Michael, it&#8217;s nice to know there are intelligent people out there who don&#8217;t just feign outrage at first sight of &#8220;un-PC&#8221; language. And I have to think that damn near every guy who has played competitive sports feels the same way when they are watching it on TV. (This isn&#8217;t to say there aren&#8217;t plenty of horrible male announcers, because there are)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34379</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he is being accountable for the post. He posted it on his blog under his name. If this post was like any of his others, they are accompanied by his email and phone number. Just because you may not agree with his words does not make them &quot;idiotic&quot;.

I&#039;ll be the first to say it I guess...
Isn&#039;t AD covered by the first amendment?

If you don&#039;t like the comment, don&#039;t read the blog. I read it and thought he meant a male that played in the NBA would provide more insight into the sport since they had been there before. Same idea as saying you wouldn&#039;t call an electrician to fix a leaking toilet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he is being accountable for the post. He posted it on his blog under his name. If this post was like any of his others, they are accompanied by his email and phone number. Just because you may not agree with his words does not make them &#8220;idiotic&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be the first to say it I guess&#8230;<br />
Isn&#8217;t AD covered by the first amendment?</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like the comment, don&#8217;t read the blog. I read it and thought he meant a male that played in the NBA would provide more insight into the sport since they had been there before. Same idea as saying you wouldn&#8217;t call an electrician to fix a leaking toilet.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34378</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it and agree with it.  I&#039;m glad someone with a voice finally said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it and agree with it.  I&#8217;m glad someone with a voice finally said it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Driscoll-Carignan</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34376</link>
		<dc:creator>David Driscoll-Carignan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps, kudos on the article. without it, I would have missed this one completely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps, kudos on the article. without it, I would have missed this one completely</p>
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		<title>By: David Driscoll-Carignan</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34375</link>
		<dc:creator>David Driscoll-Carignan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the comment (about the announcer, that is - the NBA is, indeed, awful). 

I hate that it was taken down, though. This PC crap really drives me up the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the comment (about the announcer, that is &#8211; the NBA is, indeed, awful). </p>
<p>I hate that it was taken down, though. This PC crap really drives me up the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P.</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34374</link>
		<dc:creator>J.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Accountability = accountable

Reply fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Accountability = accountable</p>
<p>Reply fail.</p>
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		<title>By: J.P.</title>
		<link>http://jerseysandhockeylove.com/blog/2009/05/11/adrian-dater-blog-post-taken-down/comment-page-1/#comment-34373</link>
		<dc:creator>J.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 12:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock it, Tape. 

At some point, people will start to understand that words actually have meanings and they&#039;ll be held accountability for assembling them in such idiotic combinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock it, Tape. </p>
<p>At some point, people will start to understand that words actually have meanings and they&#8217;ll be held accountability for assembling them in such idiotic combinations.</p>
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