Avs Wings Game 2: Anticipation

An unusually early day at work today is going to limit me to this very brief preview. Theodore may get the start, and hopefully be feeling better. Anyone who doesn’t think the Wings are going to learn from the last two periods of game one is fooling themselves. Both teams are going to want to capitalize on the last game, the Avs wanting to continue their push, the Red Wings wanting to build off the win.

Wolski is out, Forsberg is questionable, and that is are there is. Early game today, so start rubbing the coffee grounds in your eyes.

Notes From a Night of Hockey

The bad part about having a night job is that I don’t usually get to watch hockey when I am working. Lately, that hasn’t been the case, and I have been able to watch game after game. So I thought I would throw out a few notes from what I saw:

Avs squeak it out: I had to leave after the second period, but what I saw of the game had me excited and scared all at once. The stick handling of Andrew Brunette in a tight space was incredible, but the goals that Jose Theodore gave up to tie the game at two – after the Avs lead 2-0 – had me more than a little concerned. I didn’t get to see the goal that tied the game, but I know in my heart that Peter McNab used the line, “Who else but Joe Sakic?” And he would be right. The shootout had me concerned, since the Oilers have made the circus stunt their bitch this season, but Roloson was like a ghost. Nowhere to be found. Avs pull out two points, give up one that may not touch them in the end, and are tied with Dallas and Calgary. Which leads us to…

Bobby Lou pulled… again: Roberto Luongo is starting to get used to that baseball cap. After flying all over hell, creation, and Florida, Luongo made it to Minnesota in time to see 33:28 of action, enough to let every goal of the game in. At this point, the Canucks can’t buy a win, and the question as to where Lou’s head is at has to be asked. If it’s where it should be, B.L. should have taken the night off, put the faith of the franchise in Sanford, and stayed behind in Florida with the newborn. It would be understandable, and while the defense obviously supported Sanford after the change, you have to let your backup, even in the final push, take over and guide the game. Maybe it was time for a change in goal before the Canucks even got there. I would like to thank them for not making that change.

How many PIM can you have in a game… legally?: The Thrashers spent the game in the box. At one point, they had five players in the box, four sitting and one standing. Mostly, it was because the refs were calling anything that moved – I think a guy in the 12th row got two minutes for slashing – but also because coach/GM/all-around-calm-and-nice-guy Don Waddell told the refs in terms that everyone watching the broadcast could easily understand, what he though of their calls. While he may have been right at the time, a little bowl of STFU cheerios may have been a better breakfast. If you don’t like the calls these refs are making, wait two day until the next game, when you won’t like the calls the new refs make. And sit down. You look like a tool on television. I work with tools. Nuff said.

2:15 for tripping to Adam Foote: How long was Foote in the box for? The penalty box attendant didn’t seem to let him out when his penalty was over, but I didn’t have the sound on, so I couldn’t tell what was happening. Anyone? I will say this. The guy who mans the penalty box used to be my neighbor last year, and this guy was not he. In other words, this was a sub. The off ice officials for the Avs games drink at a bar I go to in Denver, and if I were home, I would ask them about this. Next time.

Wings get points and I don’t care: I have better things to do than worry about them. They are in, the Avs are not done yet. I will worry about them in the playoffs. For now, whoopee.

NCAA Hockey: I hate March Madness, because it takes away from some really important hockey. This year, I have a bit of an opportunity to watch some college hockey, and I’m really enjoying what I’m seeing. It’s a bit unrefined, and a little too much B.S. involved, but it’s still a lot of fun. Tomorrow, DU plays for their lives. Should be good.

Colorado Eagles win first game of playoffs: Another Colorado hockey team did well tonight, as the Colorado Eagles beat the Youngstown Steelhounds 6-4. These are the quarterfinals of the run to the Presidents Cup in the Central Hockey League, and a game one victory, when there is heavy travel soon to be had is important. Especially when the series split, with Colorado having home ice advantage, is 2-3-2. You can win one and still lose the series away. go figure.

That’s enough for tonight. My stay in Toledo comes to an end in a few days, and I will be drinking with Greg from the Post Pessimist Society. That is going to end in a hangover of epic proportions. Stay tuned for my pain.

Avs in the Hunt

Hey, would you look at that…

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Avs leap to seventh (OK, tied for 7th) in the standings. Still in the hunt. 15 games left, two against the Stars, one against the Ducks, one against the (hated) Devils, and a few more against the Canucks, who will be making life difficult for certain. Throw a few against the Wild in there, and this is going to be a tough race to top eight.

More Johnstown Pictures

I took a bunch of pictures from my time at the Johnstown Chiefs, but I thought the last post was long enough. Here are some more.

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You know it’s a tough crowd when the penalty box attendant gets heckled. From behind me I heard, “You throw like a girl.”

More hot dog tossing.

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This is a “bar” (beer stand with seating) at the end of the rink. As far as I can tell, it isn’t reserved seating, and I would have gone down here for a period, except that the people next to me were into talking hockey, and I wasn’t going to give that up.
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When the away team enters or exits the ice, they have to do so next to the Chiefs bench. Look at the step they have to take getting through the doorway. I would fall on my ass with a step like that on hockey skates. I bet the crowd goes wild when it happens.
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I believe that I saw the worst Zamboni work I have ever seen at this game. To be fair, the guy didn’t have a lot of time, as between period promotions pushed the time perilously close to the start of the next period, but I have never seen, and I have been to a lot of minor league rinks, anyone have to squeegee the ice this much.
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Notice that the ice and the building are not aligned. That would give me a headache.
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That’s it from Johnstown. Next up, Flyers vs. Pens from Sunday.

Johnstown Chiefs vs. Elmira Jackals: Hockey Shrine

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Welcome to Johnstown, PA. For a lot of hockey fans, it’s impossible to think of Johnstown as being it’s own town. The city has a double identity, shared with a mythical place of violence, hockey, bad hair, and horn-rimmed glasses. Johnstown will forever be confused with Charlestown, the fictional town that hosted the Charleston Chiefs, from the movie Slap Shot. If you have not seen Slap Shot yet, you are missing out, and I do not believe you. The movie plays on every bus that has ever carried hockey players, is the perfectly quotable hockey movie, and maybe the perfect hockey movie. Miracle has it’s shine and polish, Mystery, Alaska has it’s charm, and Youngblood has… um…. I’ll leave it at that. But Slap Shot has grit, blood, humor, and a reckless abandon with the script that could never make it to the screen today. If Slap Shot crossed the desk of a movie producer in this day and age, it would wind up in the trash.

I happen to be in Pittsburgh with a week off from work, and I love spending my off days searching out minor league hockey. There are plenty of NHL arenas and games to take in, but they don’t need my money, not like the teams and players toiling in the minors do. They play in sheds that are falling apart, with Zambonis that need more than a wrench put on them, and dressing rooms that could use more than a fresh coat of paint. They need the attendance, and they work hard for every dollar they can get. And they truly appreciate you showing up. When I say “you, I really mean you. Tell a person wearing a name tag at a minor league game how far you drove to see their team, and they will thank you for coming for hours, talk hockey with you, and maybe even bring you a puck. Trust me, it happens. These people are struggling to keep the team afloat, and I mean everywhere. Hockey doesn’t sell itself, no matter what the NHL teams believe.

When the opportunity to visit an icon of the game comes up, you take it. Johnstown had a game on a Friday night, and I could go. What else do I have to say. I grabbed my map, camera, and jersey, and got my butt to the Rink.

First, I had to eat, so I took a stroll down Main St.
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Is this where they had the parade at the end of the movie? I can’t tell.

I wound up eating at The Fish House, which is just a little hole in the wall with an old school look and feel to it. Two words: wood panelling. It turns out the place has been there for over thirty years, and was down the street before that, until the flood wiped the old place off the map. It also wiped the Johnstown Jets, the team the Chiefs were based on, off the map as well. From Wikipedia:

The Jets played four seasons total in the NAHL before the league folded in 1977. The team itself folded in the offseason, when the Johnstown flood of 1977 that damaged the arena’s ice making equipment.

The movie was released and the town was flooded in the same year.

Johnstown itself is exactly where the movie left off. The steel factories shut down, and the town has never recovered. The person sitting next to me at the game told me the biggest employer in Johnstown is the hospital. Walking down Main St, the only word I could use to describe the place was “Beat.”
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On to the Arena. First, I stopped along the way in a liquor store to pick up a few things for later. My jersey drew the attention of the man working the counter, and he started talking hockey with me. I got a quick rundown of the previous weekends games, one win in the shootout, and one loss in the shootout. The guy was telling me about the crowd, and how much hockey meant to the town. Another stop along the way back to the rink brought me inside the “Candy Store.” I don’t want to insult anyone, but the place was in need of some serious TLC. But they had a smattering of hockey items, including a few Starting Lineup figures from the late 90s, including Sandis Ozolinsh in 1997 and Joe Sakic holding the Stanley Cup. Mind you, they look surprisingly similar. Aside from the numbers on the back, you would think they were twins. Still, at $5 each, I couldn’t pass it up. The store owner bent my ear for a while. He’s concerned about the town, that it’s going down the drain, that younger people just pack up and disappear. He talked about the loss of hockey for the town, and told me how heartbreaking it was to see the team leave. He doesn’t wish that one anyone, but told me that people who bemoan their team should lose it for a year. “I’m still getting over it.”

Finally, I made it to the arena, in time for warmups. First, let me introduce the Mascot to you, Tom E. Hawk:
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There are about a hundred different ways to look at this. And I am not going to get into it here. I will say this. If you hire a mascot for hockey, make sure the person you hire can skate with a big head on.

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Can you imagine the opposition at an NHL game walking by you in the hall before the game? One simple fence keeping you from the players. You could say anything you wanted. You could taunt, poke, and prod them at will. Then you see a big ass goalie, and you think better of it. The crowd was really tame here, and I don’t blame them. The fence that keeps you from them may be the one that saves your life.

Welcome to the War Memorial.
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That black Budweiser sign is the goal light. Coolest. Thing. Ever.
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This is the barn. Nothing fancy, just a shrine of hockey. This was taken during warmups, so there are more people are going to show up.
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The home team gets off the ice, comes down this hall, and then turn to the right (your left)…
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And then head down the hall to the dressing room. The families, kids, and fans hang out to knock knuckles with the players as they pass by. And the players knock every single knuckle held out.

Every.
Single.
One.

It’s really cool. These guys are looked up to by the kids, and the fans love their team. You always hear of players in the NHL who snub fans and kids, and hey, those guys have more demands and more requests than these guys. But it takes so little. These are happy fans. It doesn’t take much.
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This is Tom E. Hawk throwing hot dogs out to the crowd. Yes, you read that correctly.

More arena shots:
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This guy is mad. Really mad.
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This guy is scared. Really scared.
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I don’t blame him. I would be scared too.

The good guys won the game (that would be the Chiefs), but oddly enough, there were no fights. I figured if you played for Johnstown, fighting was mandatory. So remember kids, it’s just a movie.
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Can you say, blow out? I knew you could.

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That’s about it. The experience was totally worth it. If you are happening by Johnstown, you should stop and see a game. You might even see a fight.

Avalanche Attendance: Other Reasons

I have been tearing up a storm (ie: beating a dead horse) writing about the downturn in attendance, and I do not feel the need to stop. Sure, the rest of the world may have moved on, but not me. I stand at the front lines, atop the wall, ready to do battle.

You have seen the ticket prices, know that the economy is committing suicide, and you still don’t buy it. You still think there must be some other reason. Here are some other reasons, like them or not, believe them or not, for the “attendance problems” the Avalanche are having. Some of them you may not really know about, or understand, without living in Denver.

Other sports, Major League: Baseball took it’s toll on Denver this year, with the unexpected run of the Colorado Rockies to the World Series. Playoffs mean more money for any sports franchise, and it has to come from somewhere. Don’t just stop at tickets, think about all the merchandise that was sold, parties that were had, and other money that was spent. The football season takes it’s piece of the pie every year, no matter what some would have you believe. And we are talking about the NFL here, not the CFL. To have someone from Calgary tell me how the football juggernaut works down here is silly. Then there are the Nuggets. Last season, the big splash for the Nuggets involved a blockbuster trade, drawing more “Denver Sports Fans” (a term for people who enjoy many sports and support the many teams in Denver) to basketball. The major league dollar, and the major league attention is getting spread thin. The Avalanche may not have had a budget to stick to, but regular people do.

Other sports, Smaller edition: Hey, you know what? There are other sports in Denver aside from the four big ones. In the Pepsi Center alone, there are the Mammoth (indoor lacrosse) and Crush (arena football). Around town, you have the Rapids (soccer), Outlaws (outdoor lacrosse), and plenty of college sports. Denver is one of the most saturated sports markets in the US.

Hey, what was that Mammoth thing again?: Yeah, perhaps you didn’t know, but lacrosse is taking the city over right now. After the success of the Mammoth, the city wound up with an outdoor lacrosse team. How successful are the Mammoth? They are the top team for attendance in the NLL, and they are ahead of the pack by an average of 2,500. And they have been leading the league for three years, and were second place the year before that. Unlike the Avalanche, they do some fun and interesting promotions, and they work hard for ticket sales and fans, much like a minor league hockey team. Hard to believe the team is owned by the same people. If this doesn’t take a bite out of hockey sales, I want to hear your take.

Other hockey: You may not realize this, but there are other options for hockey in Colorado. Sure, it isn’t NHL hockey, but it is still hockey, and pretty successful hockey at that. The Colorado Eagles, two time winners of the Central Hockey League championship, have been selling like mad for a few seasons now. In northern Colorado, they are very popular, and their arena is only 50 miles from the Pepsi Center. Even closer is the Rocky Mountain Rage, a new team in the Central Hockey League, and direct rival to the Colorado Eagles. The Rage currently are 2nd in the league, and first in their division. Their brand new arena is only 17 miles from the Pepsi Center, and only 14 miles from the heart of Boulder (less from the border). Like I said, it isn’t NHL hockey, but it is hockey, and a much less expensive ticket.

Soccer: They just built a new stadium for the Colorado Rapids, the MLS team. They have their own place. Can you believe that? More competition for the other sports in town.

Denver is expensive: Yeah, I know, it’s expensive to live everywhere. But the housing market in Denver is insane, rents shot up in the last ten years, and the cost of living is outgrowing the salaries. For example, from the Rocky Mountain News from June 27th, 2006:

Denver ranks No. 8 in the country in new cost-of-living rankings, with expensive groceries but cheap utility bills and booze.

Denver is tied with Minneapolis and – surprisingly – ahead of Boston, Seattle and Honolulu in the report released Monday by the publisher of the Economist magazine.

While not everyone agrees with the Economist, it’s significant that the study mentions Denver. Not cheap. Not Boston, New York, or San Francisco, but not cheap

Injury: The top three forwards are out, two of them long term. This isn’t the same as Jordan Leopold being out for most of a season. Joe Sakic is the face and heart of the franchise, and he is out until April. Ryan Smyth is out until March. Sure, there is still a team being iced, but I am still interested in seeing the those guys, and I don’t feel like I get my money’s worth if the three major scoring forces are out.

Troubling trends: You would be hard pressed to find fans that have been paying attention who would tell you that the Avalanche have been making all the right moves lately. Even I would tell them to lay off the kool-aid. Money woes tied to the salary cap may have been a factor in the last few seasons, but making smart personnel moves, spending wisely, and making good on ice decisions are the new name of the game, and we all know it. But the fans have had a hard time digesting some of the moves made in the past couple of years. While dodging the bullet of the meltdown that David Aebischer had was a blessing, the acquisition of Jose Theodore has been a dividing line between the team and many of it’s fans. Seen as a lack of commitment to winning, the Theodore move was made even more grating when he was caught holding hands with Paris Hilton. Suddenly, this team of quiet men became loud and brash, and the personality that was emboddied by Joe Sakic was eroding away quickly, even before the season started. The lack of good play, followed by the lack of an offseason buyout had more fans questioning the move, and the commitment of the team. Then there is coach Quenneville. a conundrum to most Avs fans. If there is one thing every fan thinks they know, no matter what sport, it’s line combinations. Coach Q keeps them juggled. It doesn’t help that he doesn’t show much knowledge of how to handle goalies, and is believed (by some) to be the catalyst that sent Abby down the sliding path.

Television: National television is what it is, and that’s fine. The Avalanche broadcast all of their games that are not nationally televised on their own cable network, Altitude, which also carries the Nuggets, Mammoth, and other sports. But wait, the key word here is cable. It wasn’t that long ago that you could find the games on regular broadcast stations. I wouldn’t call the coverage at the time comprehensive, but it still existed, and was free of charge. Now you have to go looking, have cable (which most people do, but not everyone), and know where to look. If the Nuggets and Avalanche are playing at the same time, the Avalanche usually get bumped to the second tier network, “Altitude 2,” which is only used at times like these. It makes it harder for the casual fan, and not the rabid one who writes about hockey, to find the games. Less broadcast exposure over the free airwaves is bad for any sport. There’s a reason the NFL moved an important Patriots game to two broadcast networks, and off it’s own NFL Network. It’s a good thing that every Avs game is broadcast, since so many other markets have PPV games, but a regular over-the-air broadcast may not hurt.

All of these are compelling reasons for there to be a drop in attendance, and while each one may not do much individually, taken together they can have significant impact.

Does this mean that we can maybe lower some ticket prices and build some new fans? Get the old fans back to the arena?

No. Quite the opposite in fact. From the Denver Post:

The Avalanche has notified season-ticket holders by mail that prices will go up for the 2008-09 season. The top price, only for row 1 along the glass, is scheduled to increase from $190 to $196 per game, and the bottom price, for the upper end balcony, will be raised from $22 to $23.

Prices going up? Attendance problem, what problem? These are the season ticket prices, but if there is an increase here, expect it at the individual ticket level. Season ticket holders are the bread and butter. If they don’t feel they are getting enough of a deal on their packages, you can expect to hear about it.

The other 2008-09 prices, and their corresponding figures for this season:

• Rinkside $134 ($130).

• Prime loge $111 ($108).

• Club corner $106 ($103).

• Club end $96 ($93).

• Corner loge $94 ($91).

• End loge $85 ($83).

• Lower center balcony $62 ($60).

• Upper center balcony $51 ($50).

• Lower corner/end balcony $42 ($41).

• Corner balcony/mid-end balcony $36 ($35).

Hey, look, more numbers. Again, from the article, these are season ticket numbers. Some have only gone up by a dollar, but thats for 41 games, and no one has just one season ticket package. And with the play of late, how many people are going to wonder if they get their moneys worth?

Avalanche Attendance: Straight From the Horses Mouth

It doesn’t take much for me to get off on a tangent these days. I don’t know why, but it seems like I see something I don’t like, or something I think is flat out wrong, and I don’t feel like letting it go.

Greg Wyshynski’s AOL FanHouse post about the attendance at the Avalanche games is one such example. I wasn’t very happy with his post, and have already shown some examples of the ticket prices, and how they compare to other teams in the league, in similar situations, and in situations that tracked closer to the Avalanche a few years ago.

One of the things the comparison lacked was what the prices laid out on ticketmaster actually translated to. What seats, for how much, and how many are there. Well, this post aims to correct that.

From the ticket information page on the Colorado Avalanche website:

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I called the box office (again, how hard is the research here? not hard at all), to see what they meant by “Season Ticket Single Game.” I was told, while they were looking at the same numbers as I was, that these were the prices that would be paid walking into the box office and buying a ticket for a single game. So, now that you see the prices, what do you get for your money?
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There’s your seating chart, with color coding as to where the prices translate to. Notice that those $26 dollar tickets are in the last five rows (info from the box office again) on the ends of the upper bowl. If you don’t want to sit on the ends, you will cough up $57 dollars.

Where did the Fan Cost Index get their average ticket price? Oh, yeah, from the season ticket prices, and only the ones that are not considered luxury suites.

Average ticket price represents a weighted average of season ticket prices for general and club-level seats, determined by factoring the tickets in each price range as a percentage of the total number of seats in each stadium. Luxury suite sales are excluded from the survey. Season-ticket pricing is used for any team that offers some or all tickets at lower prices for customers who buy season tickets.

These days, just about every ticket can be considered luxury.

At this time, I cannot give you an average ticket price for each seat in the house, because I don’t have the number of seats sold at each price level, but the average ticket price across the available prices is $94.25. Take out the club seat prices, and you have an average of $92. That’s a far cry from the $38.48 the FCI claims. In fact, according to the Avs own website, there is only one ticket price below the FCI average.

What about those of us who are cheap? I have sat in the club level twice, and lower level once, but my income puts me squarely in the balcony. The average price in the balcony is $47.06. Again, well above the number the FCI works with. To sit in the lower level, you aren’t getting in for less than $93. The average price for the “loge” – AKA lower bowl – is $134.40. Again, I’m just using the numbers provided by the Avalanche on their own website.

What does this mean? Well, let’s talk about what is being said by the bloggers. From the Wyshynski post:

Dater writes that Denver’s economic downturn is a primary factor, but it’s not like the Avalanche were fleecing fans to begin with. The last Fan Cost Index from Team Marketing Report had Colorado below the League average and even the Islanders and Blue Jackets.

Since the FCI is being invoked as the backbone of the pricing conclusion made, it’s the FCI I have a problem with. Other people have problems with the FCI as well. This is from Baseball Prospectus. While I don’t know much about the site, it shows that someone else has looked at the FCI, which looks at the four big sports, and was not impressed:

One of the biggest weaknesses in the FCI is its use of “average-priced tickets” as a benchmark. By using the price paid by season-ticket holders for a particular seat, even if the price is higher when the seat is sold on a per-game basis, the FCI understates the cost of tickets for the average fan. Moreover, in many markets the “average-priced ticket” is irrelevant to the actual options available for casual fans attending a game on short notice, who must either buy from scalpers or wind up in the cheap seats. Last year 10 clubs sold fewer than half their available tickets, while the Giants, Cubs and Red Sox played to over 90% of capacity.

Oh, good, I’m not the only one who thinks the FCI is a problem. Well, that and the attitude of some people that there is no way money could be a reason for fans not to buy tickets. I mean, it’s not like the economy is in trouble, or people are having money problems, right?

Faced with growing risks of recession, the Federal Reserve made its second deep interest-rate cut in a week and slashed a key short-term rate by a half-percentage point Wednesday.

Oh…

The Federal Reserve’s decision to cut interest rates by a half-percentage point Wednesday sent the dollar lower against the euro and the yen, but the Fed is not the only problem for an already battered dollar.

That can’t be good.

The dollar sank to a two-month low against a basket of currencies on Wednesday after the Federal Reserve cut benchmark interest rates a half percentage point and warned more may be needed to support the faltering U.S. economy.
The move comes just eight days after the U.S. central bank unexpectedly cut its lending rate by three quarters of a point to boost an economy battered by a deep housing slump and a persistent credit crisis.
“The language in the (Fed’s) statement was fairly strong, suggesting the Fed is still worried with the possibility of further deterioration in the U.S. economy,” said Mark Meadows, analyst at Tempus Consulting in Washington, D.C.

OK, so I see a trend here.

But you know, it can’t be the economy or anything. I mean, a recent downturn in the economy, that couldn’t explain what’s going on in Detroit, or Colorado, or New Jersey, or Nashville, or any other city. Hey, remember when, not too long ago, it was the Canadian cities that had problems, and the Canadian dollar was blamed. It was even reported that players did not want to be signed to Canadian teams because it translated to lower salaries due to the weakness of the Canadian dollar.

I don’t know what the FanHouse is paying these days, but for most people, NHL hockey tickets are luxury items. They aren’t as necessary as food, shelter, or car payments. But for some reason, the attendance issue couldn’t possibly be about money. I mean, the FCI says so. It’s all affordable, right?

Yeah, not so much.

I have some more spunk in me still. I don’t think I’m done. Next, more reasons for the Avs to have attendance problems, some of which deal with money, and some of which don’t.

Avalanche Attendance: Woe is Everyone

They say that there are three sides to every story: yours, mine, and the truth. When it comes to hockey, and blogging about hockey, nothing seems more accurate.

And then, if you are a blogger at the Fanhouse, you can apply that principle with the other blogging stalwart: If it worked once, do it again and again.

First, Adrian Dater (again with the Dater) is reporting in his blog that the Avalanche are finally doing something they should have done a few years ago:

Just got off the phone with Kroenke Sports, and they will be selling upper bowl tickets for $20, starting noon on Wednesday at the Pepsi Center box office, for Wednesday’s game against the Chicago Blackhawks.

You read that right, $20 upper bowl tickets. As Lewis Black once said about the tax rebate, “Free at last, free at last.” Dater goes on:

What does this say? It says that the Avs, once the toughest ticket in this town, are getting desperate to fill the building again, by any means necessary.

We’re almost into February, and the Avs are having to off-load tickets at bargain rates against an Original Six team.

I have to say, Adrian Dater has become a pretty decent hockey blogger. “Desperate?” Punching the keywords of doom and gloom to get the reading public on board. Perfect. If you break out your hockey blogger thesaurus, desperate = any reason for change.

The story here is that they are, so far, only doing it for one game, doing it the day of the game, and only for the upper bowl (no, I do not think they should have $20 lower bowl, come on). In other words, not enough to make a huge impact, and a target audience of people who are making the game a last minute decision. While we are at it, who cares if the Blackhawks are an Original Six team or not? Why is that a draw? They can’t sell in their own arena, why would they sell in Denver? What I see is a test run, to determine whether or not ticket prices can be linked to butts in seats. I have news for Kroenke Sports (who own the Avs, Nuggets, Rapids (soccer), Mammoth (lacrosse), and more), it can. If you can not afford to pay the price for a ticket, you do not go. It’s really as simple as that. Of course, price is not the only factor to go into the decision of going to a game. But I will get into that in a moment.

On to the Fanhouse, where Greg Wyshynski, in a post titled “Support for Avalanche Rapidly Melting,” picks up on the ticket price reduction, and runs with it:

Dater writes that Denver’s economic downturn is a primary factor, but it’s not like the Avalanche were fleecing fans to begin with. The last Fan Cost Index from Team Marketing Report had Colorado below the League average and even the Islanders and Blue Jackets. The Avs are currently in the eight hole in the West; that, and their slew of injuries clearly have fans feeling pessimistic.

OK, make that slowly staggers away with it. The Fan Cost Index? What the FCI is barely adequate for is determining the cost of going to a game, and spreads it out over the entire arena. It talks about the average cost, which includes the cost of beer, hot dogs, a hat, parking, and a program. It’s an overview, but a selective one. More on the FCI in a moment.

Lets take a look at some real numbers. Here are screen captures from the latest ticket sales numbers from some of the up and down teams in the league. These are taken from Ticketmaster.com, today, for the next home game, be that today, or nest week.

Detroit Red Wings (who are also having attendance problems):

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Pittsburgh Penguins (who are selling out left and right):
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Nashville Predators (again with the attendance woes):
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Anaheim Ducks (who have a serious sellout streak going on):
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New Jersey Devils (who’s attendance the very next Fanhouse article is about):
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Minnesota Wild (who sell pretty well, the understatement of the year):
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OK, let’s get back to the matchup of the Blackhawks and the Avs, where this whole debate started.

Chicago Blackhawks:
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Colorado Avalanche:
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OK, now that we have the numbers (and this is only a sampling, but a decent cross section of teams on either end of the spectrum), what sticks out? First off, aside from the Penguins, who are selling out games left and right, the Avs have the highest ticket price at the bottom of the chart. They are two dollars more than the Minnesota Wild, who are selling out games left and right, and the Detroit Red Wings, who have attendance problems of their own. But let’s say that you don’t want to sit on the end of the rink, within five rows of the top of the building. The next tier of prices for the Avs is a $14 increase. The ticket price increase for the Ducks is higher ($18.50), but that next-level ticket is still cheaper than the Avs next level ($38.00 for the Avs, $35.50 for the Ducks).

Where does the FCI fall apart? Remember, we are talking average ticket price. Looking at the top prices of the list, the Ducks ticket price tops out at $300, the Avs at $209, the Blackhawks at $275, the Penguins at a measly $150, and the Red Wings at $85. Remember, these are the prices given by Ticketmaster, today. The averaging of ticket prices for a game is nearly impossible to calculate. A better calculation would be seat price versus seat location. How do comparable seats in various arenas price out? Look at the jump in price for the Blackhawks, from $85 to $275, between the top price and second to top. A similar story is seen in Minnesota. While the trend is not tracking between price and ticket sales, it does show how the average ticket price can be thrown out of sync with the rest of the teams in the league.

The NHL has always stipulated that ticket prices are based on what the market can sustain. If the market can not afford the price of the tickets, or if there is not enough value for the money, ticket prices drop. If tickets are in high demand, the price will go up, and the people selling the tickets will test the limits of the market. If that’s the case. believe me when I say, the Avs have found that limit. It wasn’t that long ago the sellout streak at the Pepsi Center came to an end. In fact, it was just last year. Ticket prices, against the odds, are still priced as though the streak continues. Something had to give, and this could be the start.

When I was in Detroit, I got into a conversation about the Red Wings and their “attendance woes” with a man who was not, by his own admission, a hockey fan. He was trying to figure out ways for the Wings to sell more tickets. His angle was a better delivery system, something digital, something with cell phones. I told him only one thing would work, lower ticket prices. And the funny thing was, he didn’t want to hear it. He thought there was some gimmick that would make the whole thing better, some way of making the ticket buying cooler, and more enjoyable. I had to break it down for him: Best record, hottest goalies, winning games at home, passionate fans, players the fans love. Every factor you could want in a hockey team, every factor a fan could want to in their team. And still they weren’t selling. What else was there to do?

Take away those factors by half, and you have the situation that the Avalanche are in (good home record, fan favorite players who are injured, decent home record). Add to that the sports budget stretched farther than ever in Denver, thanks to the World Series run of the Colorado Rockies (which had never happened before), and injuries decimating the roster (Tyler Arnason is the top center right now), and you have plenty of reasons not to go to the games. But even with that, the number one factor for going to a game is if you can afford it or not. If you do not have the money, you do not go. Simple.

Here’s a line that tickled me pink from Wyshynski’s post:

Last month, Jes Golbez lit a powder keg on FanHouse with a post about the eroding attendance numbers for the once-infallible Colorado Avalanche, covering everything from the argument that the team has too few stars to the debate about the effect the League’s national TV ratings have on Denver.

You know, that made me laugh. “Everything?” Not even close. While Golbez piled on the the snark, he left out the biggest reasons people may not want to pay to see a game (or any event, for that matter). Fan experience and value for money. I don’t know if Greg or Jes have ever attended a game at Le Can, but I certainly have seen my fair share from the last season, and can talk about the experience and value I got for my money. And if you do not think it’s worth the price of admission, you aren’t going to go.

While on the subject, if you are going to read the articles put out on the Fanhouse, you should also take a moment to read this post by Jibblescribbits. On the Fanhouse, it is called a “furious rebuttal,” I would say it was a “researched rebuttal.” In the immortal words Brian Regan, “They’re using numbers and stuff.”

Let me say that I do not endorse the ticket prices laid out by the Colorado Avalanche, or Kroenke Sports. It think they have been way too high for too long, and think they should have lowered ticket prices as soon as the lockout ended. If not then, certainly the season after. Doing this now, and for only one game, shows a misjudgment of the overcrowded Denver sports market.

If you trust the FCI, and want to pull numbers from it, then you can see that the Avs ticket price did not change from the 2005-06 season, to the 2006-07 season. Which is what the FCI is measuring, not the current season. That’s right, they are a season behind. So know what you are getting into when you look at their charts. This comes from the bottom of the FCI:

Average ticket price represents a weighted average of season ticket prices for general and club-level seats, determined by factoring the tickets in each price range as a percentage of the total number of seats in each stadium. Luxury suite sales are excluded from the survey. Season-ticket pricing is used for any team that offers some or all tickets at lower prices for customers who buy season tickets. Costs were determined by telephone calls with representatives of the teams, venues and concessionaires. Faxes were sent to verify the information supplied. Identical questions were asked in all interviews.

How realistic is this? For the average hockey fan, and not the season ticket holder, highly unrealistic. And the FCI is based on season ticket prices, not the prices for fans like you and I. Season tickets are a constant for hockey teams, and are not where attendance woes are coming from, nor where this current ticket price cut is aimed at. The FCI isn’t high on my list of useable sources.

This has all taken about as much research as rolling out of bed. Don’t get me wrong, I like Greg Wyshynski. I met him at the NHL Draft this past year in Columbus, and think he is a good writer and a nice guy. But I really think he should have done a better job on this one. Looking at the FCI, quoting Dater, and rolling the eyes is not good enough. Then again, this is hockey blogging. Research does not get people reading like snark. So maybe it is.

All-Star Game Liveblog: Latenight Edition

Welcome to the All-Star Game Liveblog. Comments are open, so leave what you want. If you know the score, it’s time to pretend like nothing has happened.

Running a little behind, so here we go…

Well, the grand experiment, which has worked so far in other tests, is not working correctly. So, on with the regular liveblog model. What I have done so far…

11:12 Henrik Sedin still looks sad.

11:10 This is a slightly better intro than last night. But still… How do you think the Hives like this sort of thing?

11:09 Someone take away the zoom control from Versus. Please.

11:05 I’m sure the commercials are better during the regular broadcast. Not that the same three commercials are that good. Beef Jerky only can sell so much.

11:01 Thanks for the insight Eddie O. Goalies don’t like the ASG? How about Rick DiPietro. Think he likes his hip injury from last night? This isn’t about the goalies, ever. Ever.

11:00 You should not need to refresh your browser for this. The board should update on it’s own. ASG is on!!!

On with the show.

11:16 Can the NHL please buy a new effect that wasn’t used in 1974? The flame jets on wheels were much more impressive in the disco era.

11:18 And you know, thanks for the Hives and all, but can we get a more hockey band for this sort of thing? You know, like the ZAMBONIS!?!??!?!?!?!

11:19 Hey, the Canadian National Anthem rhymes in French as well as English. Who knew? OK, the Canadians, but I didn’t. That’s planning.

11:21 I want to see Grammy nominated Amy Winehouse do the national anthem. Talk about a mess. Sure, the Atlanta Boys Choir is heartfelt and nice, but it isn’t like we haven’t heard it every game everywhere ever.

11:23 Chuck Norris sounds and looks like William H. Macy. I have never seen a “total gym” on an Aaron Sorkin sitcom.

11:25 DiPietro gives up a goal while talking about his hip :12 seconds in, and the tone is set. He makes up with a poke check shortly after.

11:27 Hey does this uniform make me look fat? Yes, it does.

11:28 Osgood gives one up to Eric Stall. Does it make me evil that I am happy to see Osgood score on him? It’s just an All-Star game, but I love to see him get scored on.

11:29 DiPietro with baseball bat putting the puck up ice. It’s icing, but it still looks cool.

11:30 DiPietro shows us some stickhanding that would get him fired in any regular game. Sweet. The way he holds his stick is crazy. I had read about it before in The Hockey News, but to see it in action is pretty cool.

11:35 The action, while not physical, is quick. The effect of not having the checking is that you can see what is happening on TV better. The ice looks wide open, mostly because there aren’t five players clogging up one area. It may not be amazing hockey, but it sure is fun.

11:38 Garth Brooks is there. Remember last year when Chuck Norris was promoting his fighting show on Versus? It was pathetic, and took away form the event. While Brooks is pimping a good cause, let’s get back to the game.

11:39 Markov scores on Osgood again. Pinball between the pads five hole. I smile on the inside.

11:41 Apparently, offsides is still a rule at the All-Star game. Offside by a mile.

11:44 I said it last night, and I will say it again, picture in picture does not work in hockey. DiPietro goes down, and there is no call. he got dumped hard, and with his hip (see last night), they should be taking it easy on him.

11:47 AO gets a goal on Osgood. Hard angle on that one. I want to shake his hand just for scoring on Osgood.

11:50 DiPietro doesn’t care for the trapezoid area, where he can’t play the puck. A puck moving goalie doesn’t like the trapezoid? Surprising.

11:51 Osgood=Sieve. 4-1 east.

11:52 MegMegMeg makes the observation that it is easy to root for the East, since they are talking to DiPietro. I agree, but it’s easy for me with the crop of Red Wings out there. It may be the All-Star game, butt I can still hate the Red Wings.

11:54 Ovechkin scores again on Osgood. 3rd career ASG goal. And did the crowd just heckle Osgood? I would.

11:56 Not surprisingly, the goalies still care about goals being scored against. And then DiPietro gives the play-by-play.

11:58 It’s the end of the first. Will Ovechkin have a hat trick? Will DiPietro get a new gig calling games at Versus? Is Osgood going to cry? We will know soon.

Midnight: I ain’t tired yet. You?

12:02 Brian Engblom is bad enough when he talks about hockey that matters. This is worse.

12:03 Accuscore? What the hell is that? Are they just making words up now? If Versus really has better stats and graphics then NHL.com, then you have to wonder what they are thinking.

12:05 Some guy is talking about a “reverse mortgage.” Isn’t that where they foreclose on you, and they take your house away? What the hell are they selling here? Latenight TV ads are stupid. Stoopid. Stouped. Just plain dum.

12:13 We are back. Willy O’Ree is in the house.

12:15 For all the complaining that people do about the All-Star game, they sure do love the ceremonies that go on. Retiring players jerseys, honoring the players of the past. And O’Ree deserves every accolade that the league and fans pass his way. I’m just saying that we take so much time honoring the past, it’s nice to take a moment and honor the players who are playing right now. Sometimes you have to take a step back and just have a little fun, and give some love to the players of today.

12:17 Don’t forget, the AHL All-Star game is being played tomorrow. Click here for broadcast information. I get to see it on FSN Pittsburgh. If I wanted to drive six hours, I could go see it, but not this time. I’ve been to an AHL ASG, and it’s totally worth going to. But tomorrow is my day off, and I want to relax a little.

12:22 Ovechkin almost scored on his own net, not realizing that Vokoun is not DiPietro. Note to the Panthers: Do not pass to Vokoun.

12:28 Not nearly as much action in this period so far. A few shots, not as much interest. You have to wonder if the players are figuring out that this is going to be a long game.

12:29 AO looking for open ice, then heading up ice. I think that was the deepest in the zone I have seen Ovechkin in any game. Ever.

12:30 Nash with deke breaks the scoring drought. Slick move. 5-2 East.

12:32 Henrik Sedin doesn’t know it’s an All-Star game and tries to poke a trapped puck away from Vokoun. Next up, Phaneuf boarding Malkin, and Pronger with a two-hander on St. Louis.

12:37 What a dissapointment Kovalchuk has been in this game. He can’t even receive a pass.

12:38 Ovechkin makes a pass, which reminds us that he has no one to pass to on the Capitals. And at $124 million over 13 years, he probably won’t for a while.

12:39 Niedermayer scores. Scott Miedermayer: All-Star.

12:43 Again., I’m sick of this picture in picture thing. I have seen people on television before. I have seen people on TV talking. I can even hear them talking. I do not need them blocking the game.

12:46 Kovalchuk gets robbed by Nabokov. Great save, and a great reaction.

12:48 Kovalchuk should just break his stick. Can’t score on a breakaway, thanks to the Nabokov pad stack.

12:49 The 2nd period has come to an end, and the Western Conference is making a comeback. What do you think Mike Babcock said in the dressing room? And so far, AO or DiPietro is the MVP in my book. I have seen nothing so far about the ASG online, so this is as raw a guess as though it were running live, and not a rebroadcast.

12:52 Versus is doing a better job with the highlights for the ASG than they do during the regualr season. Sure, they have only one game to pay attention to, but they backed up the videotape enough to show how the play started.

12:55 Back after the concerts. I really don’t care about the music, unless it’s the Zambonis. Notice a trend here?

12:58 This can not be good for the ice. A marching band? A keytar (a keyboard carried and played like a guitar)? Something has to give here, people. Oh, the humanity.

1:00 AM I’m not tired yet. OK, I am a little tired, but I did two shows today. I deserve to be tired.

1:04 Anyone going to get a hat trick tonight? I don’t know yet, and you may. It’s like you are in the future. Do they have flying cars yet?

1:08 Bettman in the “hot seat.” He’s wearing the same headset I wear. I remember the last ASG on ESPN, before the lockout, and Bettman was next to Goodenow, and the ESPN guys were hard on them about the upcoming lost season. This is a love fest.

1:11 Thomas is in net, and he gives up a goal to Getzlaf. Legace and Bettman are going back and forth about the gear the goalies wear. Legace doesn’t pull the punches that the Versus crew does. Good for him.

1:13 Hat trick for Rick Nash. I would have figured AO for three goals first. And you know what, I have no idea what the prize is for ASG MVP. Do they get a car? You are in the future, not me. Hmmm…..

1:15 Legace says he’s the opposite of Rick DiPietro. Thomas, on the other hand, makes the amazing save.

1:17 Finally, a home town boy player scores. Hossa with the goal, and Legace with the humor. his little legs don’t reach that far.

1:20 Gary Bettman says that home and away schedule is not good for attendance, since divisional games are better attended. But I do not buy, and would like to see the paperwork on this one, that the fan research does not care about seeing every team play in every building once a season. It seems that every time Bettman is asked a question, he has fan sentiment on his side, which is not what I hear at all. I do not believe it one bit.

1:25 Things have slowed down a little. I suddenly realize that the lighting is much better than it was last night.

1:27 Gaborik scores on Thomas. Have the Red Wings done anything in this game? How many players do they have at the ASG, including the head coach? Did they do anything yesterday? Are they even trying? I wonder if coach Babcock told them to back off a little bit, and not get hurt. That’s my conspiracy story, and I’m sticking to it.

1:32 Stall with two now. Game tied at 7. Legace: “I should have had that one.” Is this the same guy that was accused of being a cancer in teh dressing room in Detroit? Somehow, I don’t see him being a problem. Sure, he’s expressive, but nothing “cancerous.”

1:34 I was wondering what it was like for Legace to be on the same team as Osgood, but he says they are good friends, so nothing there.

1:35 Add Iginla to the invisible player list. Where has he been all night?

1:37 Malkin with a hell of a pass behind the back to Alferdsson.

1:38 Are we going to overtime?

1:39 first broken stick of the night.

1:39 Savard!!!! Top shelf where momma hides the MVP trophy. Won’t happen, shouldn’t happen. It’s just fun to say.

1:41 The East wins the game. Tim Thomas is the winning goalie.

1:42 Why am I looking at a marketing guy? This is the sales crap that the fans hate.

1:43 Bettman gets booed as usual. I think he told the guy next to him that it happens every time.

1:44 Eric Staal gets the MVP? More east coast bias in teh NHL. I bet Rick Nash will have a few errant words under his breath. If he wants to be an MVP, he should teach his brother Jordan to step it up a little.

1:48 Hey, someone is taking Staal’s car. Stop, thief! Unless it’s Rick Nash.

1:50 Final thoughts: That’s it from the ASG. Would it have been any better if Sidney Crosby would have been there? I would have to say no. It would have been Crosby and the Other Guys, much like the Penguins are already treated. The game was fun, and had it’s moments, much like any NHL game. The ASG should be about having fun with the game. If you don’t care for these things, that’s fine, just don’t take it away from those of us who like it.

It’s back to work for the NHL, back to playing games, earning points in the standings, and fighting, checking, and getting injured. Speaking of which, is Rick DiPietro OK? Will he be back in the net for the first Islanders game after the break?

Thanks for staying up late.

Staying Up Late?

if you are staying up for the rebroadcast of the All Star Game, stop on by for some live-ish blogging of the rebroadcast. It’s fun for those of you who haven’t seen it yet. I’m working through the live version, so I’m getting while the getting is good. See you then. Or Monday, whatever you like.